Palin

[Camp Creek Kid]

I take my hat off to McCain for making what seems to be a very good choice for VP. I say this coming from two perspectives-

1) She seems solid and would likely do a decent job in that role.
2) He chose the person whom I believe provides him with the best chance to win

All that said, I admit that I cannot help but have *some" sour grapes. I believe firmly that he only chose a woman to exploit Obama for not choosing Hillary as his veep...

Smart? ABSOLUTELY.

He didn't choose her despite her gender (which I believe is more admirable). He chose her BECAUSE of her gender...

McCain chose the VP he did to help him get into office.
For the record, I do not blame him...

If Obama used the same approach and chose the VP who would best help him to win he would hands down have chosen Hillary. He didn't choose her because he feels he can win without her. I believe he is thinking ahead to life in office and believes the Clintons would be difficult to deal with in the White House.
For the record, I do not blame him...

Both candidates chose their running mates based on what they would bring to the ticket and how that would help them get elected. Obama certainly didn't chose Biden because he is a great guy and easy to work with. Biden has appeal to those voters who are leary of Obama's inexperience. Of course McCain chose Palin because she is a woman--and that fact alone shows that he is progressive in his thinking. However, it is not the ONLY reason he chose her.

 

[CPort]

I wonder if McCain asked what an igloo was first, especially after he didn't know the location of all 11 of his homes?

I believe the number is 7. Yes his wife is very rich just as Kerry's is.

 

[Geo]

Both candidates chose their running mates based on what they would bring to the ticket and how that would help them get elected. Obama certainly didn't chose Biden because he is a great guy and easy to work with. Biden has appeal to those voters who are leary of Obama's inexperience. Of course McCain chose Palin because she is a woman--and that fact alone shows that he is progressive in his thinking. However, it is not the ONLY reason he chose her.

I doubt you are going to change my mind about either of my viewpoints:

A) Hillary would have helped Obama win *this* election moreso than Biden (not that Biden isn't a great VP pick)...

B) If Palin was not a woman, he would not have picked her. McCain chose a woman only because she will help him win *this* election- not because he is so progressive on gender (not that Palin isn't a great VP pick)...

You disagree?

 

[kimbug]

She will be after working with McCain in the White House for eight years.

All back and forth aside, this was a strong but risky pick. If she comes across well in the debates, she'll peel off hillary voters and other women from Obama. Also, if they win and she's a good leader, she'll be a shoe in for the top spot in 4 or 8 years. This is historic, in the same light as Obama's candidacy is historic. Why don't we give her a chance before we skewering her?

I'm amazed at all the Obama supporters responses here. She's only the second woman to ever run for the White House, and the first didn't make it. Doesn't McCain's choice of her and giving her the chance to make history worth a little praise? Or do we only give praise for historic figures that have a 'D' on the end of their name? We're potentially talking about the first woman V.P., I think that's amazing regardless of the poltics.

Well said...if you don't mind I'm going to use your words when my brother is running his mouth at dinner tonight!

 

[TooFarTampa]

Maybe. She will certainly help with the conservative vote. But alot of women that supported Hillary are pro choice. Palin is pro life and that's a deal breaker for many women. I'd love to sit down and talk to her. She seems interesting.

I agree. She is a fascinating choice, and an impressively risky one. It is encouraging to see the shakeups and historic tickets on either side.

By choosing her McCain does, however, neutralize his own protestations that Obama is too inexperienced to lead. Maybe the guy who wants to be the oldest newly elected president is sick of talking about that, and if so, good for him. Let's get down to the issues.

I find it all endlessly interesting, but I'm also wondering how much he really helped himself. It is no secret that McCain is not an expert on economic issues. Palin is not going to provide that boost for him and it may be a problem for him. It's almost like gambling what percentage of voters are going to be absolutely miserable or very fearful by November. I think that percentage is still going to be pretty high.

 

[Mango]

....or Obama thinking there are 57 states!!!!

I believe the number is 7. Yes his wife is very rich just as Kerry's is.

I was making a bad joke. Actually, I like McCain as a person and have a great deal of respect for the man.

How brilliant of a move is having your fifth child at 44 years? The risk of birth defects is greatly elevated. Given McCain's advanced age, was this the best, most experienced candidate available, or a pandering, gamble move?

Well Bob, planned or not, I would never criticize a woman's decision to bear or not bear a child with disabilities. But, knowing you have respect for woman and their decisions, I'm giving you a pass on this one.

I agree with Cheering. Palin is a most interesting woman that I certainly would enjoy having lunch with. Whether the country will agree that she is suited to be commander in chief if necessary is yet to be seen. Rassmussen has a stat that 67% of people have no opinion one way or another about Palin. Probably because they don't know enough about her. I think it is risky for McCain to take a relative unknown and put her on the ticket.

 

[elgordoboy]

She will be after working with McCain in the White House for eight years.

All back and forth aside, this was a strong but risky pick. If she comes across well in the debates, she'll peel off hillary voters and other women from Obama. Also, if they win and she's a good leader, she'll be a shoe in for the top spot in 4 or 8 years. This is historic, in the same light as Obama's candidacy is historic. Why don't we give her a chance before we skewering her?

I'm amazed at all the Obama supporters responses here. She's only the second woman to ever run for the White House, and the first didn't make it. Doesn't McCain's choice of her and giving her the chance to make history worth a little praise? Or do we only give praise for historic figures that have a 'D' on the end of their name? We're potentially talking about the first woman V.P., I think that's amazing regardless of the poltics.

I assume by "here" you mean on this thread. What are "all the Obama supporters responses here" that you are amazed by? Previous to you posting the above I see only one poster who could be interpreted as an obvious Obama supporter.

 

[Mango]

TFT, I just saw your post. You and I always thinking the same thing at the same time.

 

[CPort]

I was making a bad joke. Actually, I like McCain as a person and have a great deal of respect for the man.



Well Bob, planned or not, I would never criticize a woman's decision to bear or not bear a child with disabilities. But, knowing you have respect for woman and their decisions, I'm giving you a pass on this one.

I agree with Cheering. Palin is a most interesting woman that I certainly would enjoy having lunch with. Whether the country will agree that she is suited to be commander in chief if necessary is yet to be seen. Rassmussen has a stat that 67% of people have no opinion one way or another about Palin. Probably because they don't know enough about her. I think it is risky for McCain to take a relative unknown and put her on the ticket.

sorry as well,I didn't mean to sound so rude.

 

[InletBchDweller]

How brilliant of a move is having your fifth child at 44 years? The risk of birth defects is greatly elevated. Given McCain's advanced age, was this the best, most experienced candidate available, or a pandering, gamble move?

I guess I will throw in my 2 cents as well. I know of several women personally who have decided to have children late in the game. They have had beautiful, healthy babies. Wanting to be a mother, after you alread have 4, is something to think about in itself. Then finding out about the birth defect and not caring about it when really there could have been an easy fix, well that speaks volumes.

I, like Mango, will give you a pass b/c I am sure (hope) that when you go back and read your comment you will understand what we are saying.