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Andy A

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Jdarg, even if all you say is true, it doesn't mean one must condone it.
 

Misty

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The latest from the Take Down the Confederate flag FB page. These are some of the interesting comments made on the page and messages sent to the organizers, and there were more that could not be printed. As a resident of Walton County, I find this completely disturbing and scary that there are people like this in Walton County. I lived through "forced busing" in Louisville during the seventies, and these comments bring back so many memories of the hate-filled people who were determined to make sure that as whites, they were better in some way, and resorted to threats and violence. And oh yeah, they used that confederate flag as their battle flag.

There is no defense of people who write these kind of horrible and ignorant rants, and the worst part is they are passing this ignorance on to their children. Thankfully this cycle of racism is being broken in most parts of the country, but isn't it sad that Walton County's latest claim to fame is being a hold out for a time that most other places in America left behind so many years ago. Yes, I know there are some people who truly believe that history is on their side, and are trying to intelligently discuss the issue, but once your side and message is dominated by the stereotypical Southern racist, it really makes the point that the flag really isn't going to "honor" war veterans.

The first comment is the worst, and I was told it is not the worst they received.

These are just a flavor of some of the comments and threats we have received from the opposition whose motto is "heritage, not hate." Anyone who supports keeping the flag up at the courthouse is standing side by side with these Walton County residents.

jdarg, There is no defense for some of the comments you have made either. You personally have made your share of what I and perhaps others here consider racist, ignorant, disturbing, hateful comments by attempting to label and entire group of people who support leaving the flag where it is because of the pride, history and heritage that it evokes in them to the folks who are making the types of comments/statements you have posted here. If the sad part of what you're attempting to do here weren't so pathetic it might almost be comical.

The fact that you are using facebook to do it makes your attempts even that much more comical for several reasons.

1.) To create a facebook page you must be at least 18 years of age yet every single person I know in Walton County who has children (under the age of 18) are on facebook along with their under-aged children and their parents helped them create their own pages by misleading Facebook in regard to their children(s) ages.

2.) You do know not know for a fact that the individuals who posted those particular comments are from Walton County because when you create a page on facebook you could tell them you are from "east Jesus land" and the facebook app doesn't know the difference.

3.) Facebook has a terms of service page which includes: You will not bully, intimidate or harass any user, and you will not post content that is hate speech, threatening, pornographic, incites violence, contains nudity, graphic or gratuitous language or violence yet the comments you posted are full of most of the above which is violation of the Terms of Service for Facebook users.

4.) You do not have to give your real name or location to create a Facebook page...again, the Facebook app doesn't know the difference.

5.) The person or persons who created that page SET THEMSELVES UP for those types of comments by setting the page to "PUBLIC". You can control content that is posted to any page you create with "privacy settings". This is a futile attempt by the creator of that page to show that racism exists. We all know it does and as unfortunate as it is, it is NOT exclusive to Walton County!!!

Anything and everything you put on the world wide web is subject to scrutiny (especially if it is publicly viewed with an open comments section) and your attempt to try and show that all those people who spewed such filth and crap came from Walton County is a sad commentary on your part and speaks volumes as to what you think of your Community and the people who proudly live and work and play here.
 
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Misty

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The posters are real people, with real names. Local law enforcement and the county commissioners have been sent these posts along with information on threats both in print and in person. FB posts are used quite a bit by law enforcement these days.

jdarg, Again, you don't know for sure that the people that posted those comments or made those threats are using their real names and locations to do so!! Stop insinuating that you do. It is a gross misrepresentation of the facts!

Good Luck Sheriff in tracking down those individuals.

Threats made to individuals in person are a whole nother ball game and I do hope those result in charges.
 

Teresa

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Jdarg is right about Facebook. It includes a very wide range of people from the entire community. It's where they communicate daily on personal and local levels and more. Personal timeslines, group pages and business pages. Most are posting under their legitimate names, but some could be very young. There are no age limits.

I'm not sure what page these comments came from.. The petition page? I never saw them.

The Defuniak Herald has a business page where they asked the simple question about whether Walton County should take down the flag or keep it. The responses weren't this bad but they were about 99% keepers. My feeling is that almost all responses were from the north part of the County. I didn't know them by name. Close to 800 or more responses. Many people, like me, were reluctant to post on it. My friend said she would post if I would. I finally did. Me and about three others who responded take it down, with our brief reasons. There were a range of posts by the keepers and mostly respectful.
 

Misty

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Jdarg is right about Facebook. It includes a very wide range of people from the entire community. It's where they communicate daily on personal and local levels and more. Personal timeslines, group pages and business pages. Most are posting under their legitimate names, but some could be very young. There are no age limits.

I'm not sure what page these comments came from.. The petition page?

The Defuniak Herald has a business page where they asked the simple question about whether Walton County should take down the flag or keep it. The responses weren't this bad but they were about 98% keepers, indicating that almost all responses were from the north part of the County. I didn't know them by name. Close to 800 or more responses. Many people, like me, were reluctant to post on it. I finally did. Me and about three others who responded take it down, with our brief reasons. There were a range of posts by the keepers and mostly respectful.

Teresa, there is an age limit on facebook to create an actual page!
 

Teresa

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Teresa, there is an age limit on facebook to create an actual page!

I am friends with some of my kids friends on fb. They are 13. The minimum age is 13. Though there are younger people too. There are very easy ways to get around the age limit with or without parent permissions.

I hope children know better these days. But they do learn from their families. Surely our schools teach better writing skills today.
 

Misty

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The Defuniak Herald has a business page where they asked the simple question about whether Walton County should take down the flag or keep it. The responses weren't this bad but they were about 98% keepers, indicating that almost all responses were from the north part of the County. I didn't know them by name. Close to 800 or more responses. Many people, like me, were reluctant to post on it. I finally did. Me and about three others who responded take it down, with our brief reasons. There were a range of posts by the keepers and mostly respectful.

For those who missed the link to Teresa's reference... https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeFuniak-Herald-Beach-Breeze/276530294617

Look for the posts from June 29, 2015

The comment I liked most was from someone who said... "Hatred is a heart condition not a flag condition"!

Danny Glidewell's post was very informative as well and oh so telling of the agendas at work here.
 
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Teresa

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For those who missed the link to Teresa's reference... https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeFuniak-Herald-Beach-Breeze/276530294617

Look for the posts from June 29, 2015

The comment I liked most was from someone who said... "Hatred is a heart condition not a flag condition"!

Danny Glidewell's post was very informative as well and oh so telling of the agendas at work here.

Racism is alive and well as indicated by some fb posts.

I get that there is anger over taking away something that people love. Let's not forget that not all of the flag lovers are motivated by racism. But some are whether or not they know it. The ones not motivated by racism... Can't they see why removing the flag would be a positive step, even if they love their flag? The memorial will stay in its place without a flag as it was originally designed. They can use their flags elsewhere.

Yes, I admit to being personally offended for many years by that flag whenever I see it on public grounds. My heart has always felt broken when I see it and think of all the progress we've made since the 60s and it's still there as a reminder that white "pride" continues under a flag that lost the battle long ago. Is it necessary? I'll choose Dr. Martin Luther King Jr and his words and actions to a better way of living and loving over that flag any day.

I'm sad for the anger caused in the hearts of so many in those posts. Anger is a choice. And it doesn't really help. It only reflects on oneself.

Unfortunately some fb locals are now saying that they fear going to the Walton County BCC meeting.
 

miznotebook

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Jul 8, 2009
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Jdarg is right about Facebook. It includes a very wide range of people from the entire community. It's where they communicate daily on personal and local levels and more. Personal timeslines, group pages and business pages. Most are posting under their legitimate names, but some could be very young. There are no age limits.

I'm not sure what page these comments came from.. The petition page? I never saw them.

The Defuniak Herald has a business page where they asked the simple question about whether Walton County should take down the flag or keep it. The responses weren't this bad but they were about 98% keepers, indicating that almost all responses were from the north part of the County. I didn't know them by name. Close to 800 or more responses. Many people, like me, were reluctant to post on it. I finally did. Me and about three others who responded take it down, with our brief reasons. There were a range of posts by the keepers and mostly respectful.

I would respectfully disagree with the idea that posts on the DeFuniak Herald Beach Breeze FB page are necessarily by people living north of the bay. The newspaper covers all of Walton County, and the FB page is for all readers.
 

Teresa

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Nov 15, 2004
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I would respectfully disagree with the idea that posts on the DeFuniak Herald Beach Breeze FB page are necessarily by people living north of the bay. The newspaper covers all of Walton County, and the FB page is for all readers.

It looked like it but that was just my guess since I didn't know many of the posters. The few I did know were from North Walton County, with very few from South Walton. Love the Herald and all of the good people there. Yes the Herald represents all of Walton County and they do an excellent job. Especially in covering local meetings and issues with outstanding and objective information. Always read my paper!

Maybe posters were also from other nearby counties?
 
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