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Scenic 30a Open - Draper Lake Bridge Construction Complete

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  1. Kurt Lischka

    Kurt Lischka Admin Staff Member

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    1:30 PM Friday. What is wrong with this picture?

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    Does WalCo. have 4 day work week??:dunno:
     
  3. soappedaler

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    The road department works Monday thru Thursday.
     
  4. Dawn

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    There is a bridge contractor supposed to be on the job. I hope that it is our priority to have them working 7 days a week. 24 hour shifts would be a good idea also. There are a lot of businesses that depend on that bridge. Every day it's down is a day they may not be able to feed themselves and many employees.
     
  5. steel1man

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    Very casual Friday...I doubt Walton wants you posting these things
     
  6. Matt J

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    Actually the demolition is being handled by public works and the contractor will be installing the new bridge.

    We're not stranded on an island calm down.
     
  7. steel1man

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    Very tall crane onsite today..those things RENT by the day maybe be $1,000's per day..so I doubt they will be hiding in the woods any time soon.
     
  8. Matt J

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    I'm pretty sure the crane was used to take out the old sales office at Forest Lakes and doesn't have anything to do with the bridge.
     
  9. Kurt Lischka

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    Draper Lake Bridge Construction Project Update #3
    Draper Lake Update #3

    All utilities have been relocated.

    Contractor and equipment are onsite.

    Site work being conducted in preparation for pile driving activities.

    This is a 120 day contract with 103 days remaining.

    Project remains on schedule and will result in traffic on CR 30 being opened no later than March 1, 2016.

    If you have any questions related to this project please do not hesitate to contact Walton County Public Works at 892-8108.
     
  10. steel1man

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    Actually the bridge work is all this crane has to do with this job..its still there and trailers are gone Wheeled off site as they usually are.
     
  11. Matt J

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    Well the contractor is paying the bill. They have a set amount they bid. If they want to cut into their profit that's their business. Also if the crane isn't rented prior go delivery some companies will deliver early as opposed to finding a temporary storage site.
     
  12. Poppaj

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    Why not build a road north and just remove every section of 30A where it bisects a coastal dune lake and return the area to it's natural state?
     
  13. Matt J

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    It's called 98, but that's too far for some.
     
  14. bill

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    I had a thought about the traffic at Hwy 283 Hwy 98 intersection. Have all traffic going north on Hwy 283 take a right once they reach Hwy 98. No crossing highway to make left turn. You would have to make a right on 98 and then make a u turn at the first turn around lane you come to. I know it would take a little more time trying to go west bound coming off Hwy 283 but it could safe a life and the WCSO wouldn't have to have a patrol car parked there all the time. The lights from the deputies car are kind of blinding at night once you get close to them. Just my 2 cents
     
  15. John G

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    Maybe Florala can donate their traffic lights to Walton County or the DOT for the detour intersection...

    By the way, why are Walton Tax Payers footing the bill for a DOT problem? Not only that, but the BCC is paying the Sheriffs Office by the hour for the vehicle to sit there. Shouldn't this money come from DOT?

    (From WZEP)
    TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN FLORALA TO BE REMOVED

    Despite the concerns and calls of dozens of Florala residents, two traffic lights will come down on Hwy. 331 in Florala by the end of the week

    George Conner, regional engineer for the Southeast Region of the Alabama Department of Transportation (ALDOT), said Wednesday that traffic engineers believe their plan is the best solution for keeping traffic flowing safely.

    For decades, there have been traffic lights in the downtown area of Florala at Sixth Street, Fifth Street, Fourth Street and Third Street. Conner said the lights at Fourth and Fifth streets have been switched to “flashing” for about eight months.

    When the district ALDOT officer was contacted about traffic congestion in the summer, particularly with seasonal beach traffic, they began analyzing traffic flow.

    “It was at that time it came to light that the two interior signals (4th Street and 5th Street) had been on flash mode fro many months. Our engineers began looking at the operation of those. If they had been in flash that long, why were they there? “They were put in flash in response to peak seasons traffic,” Conner said. “The police chief put them on flash, and said it relieved congestion.”

    When ALDOT analyzed traffic counts in April, there were 4,400 automobiles travelling through downtown Florala daily. The two streets with the lights in question – Fourth and Fifth – had considerably fewer vehicles, 220 and 88, than the highway.

    “When you have very low traffic; having signal there when it is not needed, makes traffic conditions worse. It became clear they were too close together to operate in a way to safely and efficiently move traffic through there,” Conner said.

    Florala Police Chief Sonny Bedsole says he thinks the change will actually help alleviate some problems.

    Bedsole said turning the middle lights to caution not only made traffic move more efficiently, but cut down on the number of wrecks. “When the lights were functioning for people to stop, we had two to three rear-end collisions per month,” said Chief Bedsole.

    The congestion is further complicated that there are four lanes of traffic entering and leaving Florala, but the traffic is condensed to two lanes in a two-block, downtown area.

    Because Florala is blessed with wide streets, some residents are concerned the state will remove on-street parking and allow four lanes of traffic to move through town, too. But Conner said that’s not happening now.

    “I have strongly recommended to the city that they work with ALDOT to repurpose that parking so they could have four lanes through there,” he said. “They have room to make up that parking somewhere else.” But for now, ALDOT won’t force the issue.

    In the weeks since the state announced by posting signs that the flashing lights would be removed, the local business community has become more vocal in its opposition, he said, adding that his office has received 40 to 50 phone calls, and that he has met with Florala Mayor Robert Williamson, and spoken with Sen. Jimmy Holley and Rep. Mike Jones.

    Public perception, he said, is that the flashing lights slow traffic down.

    “We respectfully do not agree with that statement,” he said. “They are only 300 feet apart. The presence or absence of caution lights don’t have an impact on that.” He said people also believe the flashing lights protect pedestrians.

    “I understand that they perceive that to be the case,” Conner said. “I’m telling you that the perception is not correct. Flashing lights don’t cause people to stop, and they do not provide a protective spot for pedestrians to cross.”

    Tuesday, Chief Bedsole said, ALDOT workers erected stop signs on Fourth and Fifth Streets at Hwy. 55/331. The lights will come down by Friday. The crosswalks are also schedule to be taken out as well though that work has yet to be scheduled.

    Chief Bedsole said things won’t be any different for the travelers who have to yield to stop signs today.

    “People have to pull up there and stop now (on Fourth and Fifth streets),” he said. “We hope everybody will be cautious. It will take a little bit of getting used to, but they have to stop anyway.”
     
  16. Matt J

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    Well the DOT didn't create the detour or the reason for it, why should they pay anything?
     
  17. John G

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    Because Highway 98 is a State Highway and DOT handles all State Roads...?
     
  18. Matt J

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    Yes, and I've never seen an FHP trooper doing the same thing. Why would the state pay the Sheriff to station a deputy there all day?
     
  19. steel1man

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    Both PC TV stations predicted days ahead of major rain storms so it must be their faults. Sure they both could be held responsible. Since they hate (jealous) of Sowal they should be made to pay.
     
  20. John G

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    That's the point.

    DOT should be the one footing the bill and paying FHP to sit there.
     

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