Seawalls

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

I guess it is just the same thing that I do when a tourist in Seaside walks from behind a large truck to cross the road 3 feet from the front bumper of my
3000 lb car going 20 mph. I try to explane to them that the laws of Physics also apply here at the beach. 180lb person vs 3000 lb car ........huuuuum which will have more damage? ??? They can do it but it REALLY is not a GOOD idea!

Same thing applys to seawalls that have no chance against major hurricanes.

Sorry, I didn't realize you were a physicist. Crazy me!....for thinking a well engineered wall can hold up better to the seas than a mere mortal against your 3000 pound car going 20 mph.

When you were posting, were you by chance thinking of that poor soul that got whacked in the street by a hit and run driver yesterday ... and nobody stepped in to help?:shock:

You are kidding about all of this, right?

Just in case your answer is no, I'll inject some SoWal etiquette here:

And could you please answer my original question as "to what motivated you to comment on and resurrect the seawalls thread over a year later" in the first place?

 

[John R]

BTW, if most here on SoWal get their way, God and/or nature will take of the seawalls (to the detriment of many good people) from many of the posters in this thread. I'm not directing this comment at you, BeachSiO2.

And like I insinuated, I believe most here will be pleased. At least they can say, "I told you so." Also, like the pilot on the turtle video jokingly(?) said, the new artificial reefs will be a boon to the fishing industry.:roll:

BMBV, do you honestly think the majority of posters here actually want someone to lose their property to a hurricane?

And could you please answer my original question as "to what motivated you to comment on and resurrect the seawalls thread over a year later" in the first place?

Could you please answer my question? Although things get a little one sided here (since you seem to be the only beachfront owner who really posts here with spirit), do you really think anyone here really wants anyone else to lose their property to a hurricane? I think not. Short of the "I told you so's", anyone here would gladly help out you or anyone else who lost their property in a storm. that's my belief.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Here is worthy news of seawall thread resurrection: I read in the June 5, 2008 Defuniak Herald that the government (DEP I think), was requiring at least one illegal seawall to be removed in Dune Allen. I believe that I read it is preventing the outfall of Oyster Lake. The neighboring property owner to the one being required to remove his seawall, says that he will remove his right after his neighbor removes his. The only reason he erected a seawall is because he thought his property would be further damaged since the neighbor built one. He said that if the neighbor had not built one, he would not have needed to build one himself. Perhaps ALeonard can post the text of the article on here for us?

 

[Bobby J]

I am sure many seawalls went up because the neighbor built one.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Could you please answer my question? Although things get a little one sided here (since you seem to be the only beachfront owner who really posts here with spirit), do you really think anyone here really wants anyone else to lose their property to a hurricane? I think not. Short of the "I told you so's", anyone here would gladly help out you or anyone else who lost their property in a storm. that's my belief.

I thought your question was more rhetorical than anything else. But since you insist and since so many SoWal members are in denial, read on.

The answer to your question most likely falls in line with the numbers here in SoWal that feel that ANY and ALL beach front property falls under the customary use doctrine and should be confiscated without reparation....same ole people with the same ole (socialistic and hypocritical) attitudes.

JR, if you and the others truly believe that the walls will fail, that's not a problem with me (anymore). I simply asked Peterwhatshisname why he started up the age old seawall issue again, especially after some of the "very interesting numbers" he was quoting regarding PSI and now, hit and run accidents which are directly related to seawall physics (SoWal etiquette... ).

I'm willing to learn a new trick if someone has new info to share. Otherwise, I really don't like to see people fueling frenzy by quoting crap on this message board and then getting away with it (in case you haven't noticed) on issues that are near and dear to me (and to many others).

 

[Bobby J]

I thought your question was more rhetorical than anything else. But since you insist and since so many SoWal members are in denial, read on.

The answer to your question most likely falls in line with the numbers here in SoWal that feel that ANY and ALL beach front property falls under the customary use doctrine and should be confiscated without reparation....same ole people with the same ole (socialistic and hypocritical) attitudes.

JR, if you and the others truly believe that the walls will fail, that's not a problem with me (anymore). I simply asked Peterwhatshisname why he started up the age old seawall issue again, especially after some of the "very interesting numbers" he was quoting regarding PSI and now, hit and run accidents which are directly related to seawall physics (SoWal etiquette... ).

I'm willing to learn a new trick if someone has new info to share. Otherwise, I really don't like to see people fueling frenzy by quoting crap on this message board and then getting away with it (in case you haven't noticed) on issues that are near and dear to me (and to many others).

Wow! Same reasons I defend on the RE threads! We actually have something in common.

 

[scooterbug44]

?It is the county position that it should be public from the CCL (Coastal Construction Line) to the water,? he said. ?However, we must wait to hear how the courts rule on it.?

Someone in the county gov't finally got a heaping helping of common sense and cojones!

I see some more business for surveyors in the future! ;-)

 

[Smiling JOe]

right, and it took only 9 months for them to figure it the letter from the State Attorney.

 

[BeachSiO2]

Someone in the county gov't finally got a heaping helping of common sense and cojones!

I see some more business for surveyors in the future! ;-)

right, and it took only 9 months for them to figure it the letter from the State Attorney.

If I read it right, it's the only person in the County who has the authority to tell the officers how to enforce the law- the Sheriff.

 

[30A Skunkape]

I read that article in The Sun yesterday, too. Let the games begin!