Seawalls

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

SJ,

Wouldn't your posting of Sean Boone's article be MUCH MORE appropriate in another thread that discusses "Remove It or Lose It" or either one of the multitude of Private vs Public Beach threads?

Does this article have anything to do with seawalls? At least Peter compared rushing water hitting a seawall to a hit and run situation at Seaside. I can stretch and see the association he made.

Surely an official Sowal Guru Moderator such as yourself can see this.

Humor me and try to keep the seawall discussion on track.

Why don't you re-post the article in an applicable thread and we'll have at it (again and again and again and again.....)?

 

[Smiling JOe]

The answer to your question most likely falls in line with the numbers here in SoWal that feel that ANY and ALL beach front property falls under the customary use doctrine and should be confiscated without reparation....same ole people with the same ole (socialistic and hypocritical) attitudes.

Sorry, I got confused with which thread I was in when I read your above comment about customary use. I will repost that article in the appropriate thread. (I'm not sure why you think it may belong in the move it or lose it thread.) Thanks. Since Kurt removed the thread titles from the top of each post, I find it too easy to forget which thread I'm in.

 

[Miss Kitty]

SJ,

Wouldn't your posting of Sean Boone's article be MUCH MORE appropriate in another thread that discusses "Remove It or Lose It" or either one of the multitude of Private vs Public Beach threads?

Does this article have anything to do with seawalls? At least Peter compared rushing water hitting a seawall to a hit and run situation at Seaside. I can stretch and see the association he made.

Surely an official Sowal Guru Moderator such as yourself can see this.

Humor me and try to keep the seawall discussion on track.

Why don't you re-post the article in an applicable thread and we'll have at it (again and again and again and again.....)?

...be careful what you ask for.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Sorry, I got confused with which thread I was in when I read your above comment about customary use. I will repost that article in the appropriate thread. (I'm not sure why you think it may belong in the move it or lose it thread.) Thanks. Since Kurt removed the thread titles from the top of each post, I find it too easy to forget which thread I'm in.

SJ, what's going on? I asked you to repost the article in another applicable thread and in your self proclaimed enthusiasm you see it fit as an OFFICIAL SOWAL GURU MODERATOR to post the exact same thing in

[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=14597"]Customary use of the beach[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=16797"]Public Vs Private Beaches and County Govt.[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=17579"]Beach Property Rights - public/private[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=13977"]Beach Ownership[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=20589"]Public vs Private Beach[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=22255"]My first experience with public/private beach issue[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=23633"]Customary Beach Use[/ame]
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=14301"]Led away in Handcuffs[/ame]

That's 8 different threads.

Mr. Moderator, which one should I jump in? Make us proud.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

...be careful what you ask for.

Hey, I simply asked him to keep the seawall thread on track and repost the article in "an applicable thread", not every applicable thread. BIG DIFFERENCE, don't you think?

But his actions and tactics never cease to surprise me.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Now you are getting off on a tangent. When I began searching for "customary," I found many threads about private/public beach issues. They varied from people being arrested, to people inquiring where they could use the beach, to the TDC's official statement telling people not to sit on the dry sand. I felt it necessary to post that new information in all of those threads as to be informative to the people who may search for something like "public beach," and read only one of the threads. If I didn't post it in a particular thread like the TDC's official answer, people might mistakingly think they didn't have the right to sunbath on the dry sandy beach. By the way, I didn't start all of those different threads.

If any of those threads were the inappropriate place to post the information, please let me know. Now, back to the Seawalls. (I cannot imagine why anyone would get sidetracked on here, reading your posts.)

To help get us back on track, what are your thoughts on the property owner in Dune Allen being told by the gov't to remove his allegedly illegal seawall?

 

[DuneLaker]

There are times when government must step in and stop illegal activity or see that the laws of the Republic are followed. The state and federal government has had to step in several times when the local county commission refused to follow the law. I believe we were the last county to get a comprehensive land development plan in Florida.

 

[John R]

Ididn't go to all 8 threads. It seems a little heavy to crosspost in all of them. Isnt that what tags are for?

BMBV, there is obviously a fine line(as yet unresolved) between beachfront and beach. The walls will fail, that is a given, and the walls will cause erosion, that too is a given. I understand that people who were sold a pile of sand to build on and built as close as possible to the water need them, instead of building a little further away, and having a nice lawn to waste water on. Caveat emptor.

When that person runs out of money, the house is hanging over the air, and that person resides in Wyoming someplace, who's responsibility will it become?

Again, I wish no one any losses, including the taxpaying base. I just wish we knew then what we know now.

 

[scooterbug44]

I found the post applicable - if the beaches from the CCL to the water are public, obviously no private seawalls can be built on them!

Not that the fact that they were constructing a seawall on public beach stopped anyone lately.

 

[Smiling JOe]

perhaps the private/public beach threads should be merged.