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Teen on bike hit by truck in Seagrove

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  1. robertsondavies

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    AGREED. Not that speed limits could have helped avoid yesterdays accident at all, (may have more to do with failure to avoid/ failure to look both ways) but it appears to me that seasonal speed limits on 30A would be helpful.. probably either a full 5 months from April 10th to September 10th for simplicity sakes, or alternatively they could bounce around electronically inversley to the increasingly complex rental rates on 30A for a given year (which correspond with occupancy fairly well).
     
  2. Camp Creek Kid

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    I'm sorry for this young man and hope that he recovers quickly.

    I do have to say though, that pedestrians and bike riders have got to wake up and follow the traffic rules. Bike riders ON 30-A need to be smart about when they choose to bike and pick a time with light traffic. One thing that is making me nervous is all the pedestrians in Rosemary Beach that cross at the traffic light when the vehicular traffic has a green light. Just because there is a crosswalk there does not mean that pedestrians can cross when the cross traffic has a green light. It is very scary because it is impossible to predict if someone is going to step out in front of you when you have a green light. Contributing to the problem are the drivers who stop at the green light and let the pedestrians cross. It is dangerous for other drivers who are not expecting the car in front of them to suddenly stop at a green light and it is dangerous for the pedestrians who are becoming accustomed to having drivers stop for them. If drivers, bikers, and pedestrians all follow the traffic rules, then it is safer for everyone.
     
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  3. Em

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    There is a seasonal lower speed limit on 30A -- It's called traffic.
     
  4. robertsondavies

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    True... AND if y'all would be willing to get experimental, and let common sense dictate speed limits etc.. like in Wyoming, or wherever, I'd be all for it.
     
  5. Sandcastle

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    If Walton County would like to lower the property tax rate for all of us, all that they need to do is ticket the spring breakers and construction workers driving like bats out of hell on the dirt roads in Old Seagrove.

    The speed limit and stop signs are almost completely ignored. It's only a matter of time before a kid on a bike rides out in front of one of these idiots. These people think that it's a great sport to see how much dust they can raise.
     
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    I dont add my imput much around here, but for starters, i think it was scooter who mentioned our local com. coffee man,..and i couldnt agree more, if it was the one we are thinking of, he is as professional as can be and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family as well as the victims. With that said ,one thing i learned long before we had a bikepath,..not that its related to this tragedy,..but NEVER slow down and wave a group across 30 a if they are on your left..They will smile and wave without thinking for a second about looking to their left as they enter the road. Be safe my friends, i hate a vacation tragety, and i dont wanna see a good locals life torn apart. Prayers to all...
     
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    I have been heartbroken all day thinking that this boy had passed away. So happy to hear that he is recovering well!!!!! No matter who was at fault - wouldn't it be a good idea to have delivery trucks along 30-A only be able to deliver at certain hours? Like 6 - 8 a.m.? Maybe only during the peak tourist seasons?:idontno:
     
  8. toes

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    I was miserable reading this until I learned that this child has survived!! Hopefully he has a speedy recovery. I subscribe to two absolute realities (in my own mind) whenever I am on 30a. When I am driving-I assume all pedestrians and bikers will not see me and cross at will in front of me. When I am jogging or biking, I assume no drivers see me and none of them will slow down/stop for me to cross. I drive this point to my kids constantly. They get nowhere near 30a without me or another adult. I am so paranoid when jogging that I never use my ipod and I can always be found hugging the extreme southern side of the run/bike path!! I am beyond amazed with the spring/summertime pedestrians around Seaside. Many of them walk in front of moving cars without a glance to the left or right. Even worse is the parked cars parallel to 30a. Small children are completely hidden by these cars until they are actually on 30a. Even Shaq could be hidden by some of the SUVs/Trucks parallel parked around Seaside! Forget about right of ways on any road, especially 30a. Traffic laws are what they are and we should obviously abide by them at all times. However, the laws of physics favor the automobiles.
     
  9. jpbhen

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    well said! my husband and i were just discussing this tonight at supper, and were preparing to make a similar post. this situation at the lights in rosemary has been on our minds for some time - an accident waiting to happen. scary. and the extended intersection contributes to the problem. the powers that be in rosemary - or whoever is responsible for setting up the lights/intersection/crosswalk - should really rethink this and make changes. either it should be crosswalks with NO traffic lights, or traffic lights with pedestrian crossing lights and no crosswalk designation. otherwise the confusion will result in an accident someday.
     
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    I was stopped at a red light at Rosemary. Girl on my left was hesitant to cross on her bike, finally she did. She wasn't paying attention and she sideswiped another cyclist crossing the other way. Very low speed, but the lady who got sideswiped had her child in a bike seat with her. I think everyone is OK, but some of these people are so unaware.
     
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    I'm chiming in late. Mr. Clean told me about it the day it happened and it's been worrying me so much. I'm glad the boy is "okay," in the best sense of the word.

    We moved to a very bicycle & pedestrian friendly town. There are bike paths, bike lanes and even places where the cars have to share a narrow country road with a ton of cyclists. Crosswalks have only a sign that states the NC law is to stop for anyone in a crosswalk. Because it is the norm for everyone here, there is a lot more respect from all sides, the cyclists, pedestrians and vehicles. People actually love the area because they can get around without their cars.

    It's a huge difference after living in SoWal for 3 1/2 years and seeing the tourists come down and have no clue how to ride a bike, walk in traffic or even drive a car respectfully. It really can be done. I hope that more non-tourist towns convert to a more multi-use way of living soon.
     
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    i don't think so. with all of the businesses on 30-a? with many of the vendors traveling from far away to make thoser deliveries?
     
  13. enfuego

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    from the SWFDs FB site this a.m.

    Lot's of visitors here in South Walton and we have seen an increase in accidents involving bicycles. Please be safe when biking on our trails, roadways and bike paths!
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  14. Jdarg

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    The only way these people are going to get the message is if we sit out on 30A with big signs or scream at them- they are on vacation, and don't watch the local news, read the paper, or for anything but activities on the local computer sites.

    The only way to change behavior is if we as a community are very vocal with those we see breaking the rules- polite, but firm. Just like we are vocal about leaving stuff on the beach at night. I have no problem with asking a parent to keep an eye on their kids, or ask a kid to follow bike safety rules. Sure, I get some dirty looks and a comment or 2, but I bet I made them think.
     
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    I nearly ran a young teenage girl over yesterday at the crosswalk on the west end of the Wheelhouse parking lot. She and her girlfriend were on the sidewalk south of 30A, and they had one of those "will I, won't I?" moments so I went ahead and completely stopped to see if they were going to cross.

    It looked like they had decided on "won't" and began to continue walking on the south side, but then she had a change of heart mid-step and started to turn right into my path, without looking at me or my Jeep, just as I started to continue on my way. Fortunately, I was proceeding slowly, and could stop quickly and her friend was on the ball and yanked her backward.

    The best advice I could offer tourists when they're out walking or biking is to be deliberate. I know that you're on vacation, and you want to see and do it all, but open your eyes and look around you! If you're not sure which way you want to go, take a second to stop and make a decision before you proceed!

    30A IS a highway and major thoroughfare, no matter how quaint and charming it appears. Would you dance into the line of traffic on highways where you're from? It only takes a second for tragedy to strike. I'm so very glad that the boy is going to be okay, but what about the next child who does it? :idontno:
     
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    I think in a lot of cities deliveries are done in the wee dark hours of late night and early morning, and it makes all kids of sense for this area too, at least in peak tourist times. That wouldn't solve the problem of too many people not following basic rules of roadway safety, though.
     
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    How is restricting the hours delivery vehicles may travel on public roads going to make kids on bikes safer?:idontno:
     
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    I guess my point was that it would cut down on road traffic. I've owned property there for the past 9 years and have noticed an increased number of big trucks on 30-A.
     
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    Yes, but this boy is 15.
     

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