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Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

Reggie Gaskins avatar
Beach Lover
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When you see a PCB or Destin bumper sticker, what thought immediately comes to mind? Probably same for all of us with any time spent here - nice, but it ain’t 30A! Do you remember why you started renting/visiting here? What was it? Remember when you bought your first 30A property? Why here?
Because it was DIFFERENT, right? Remember the words you used to describe it to family and friends as you invited them here? “Private” “Quiet” “Intimate” “Less crowded”. That wasn’t by accident. The entire genetic code of Sowal beaches is because of the private ownership and neighborhood beach personalities.
You could rent “private beach”. You could buy “private beach”. There wasn’t a free for all frat party atmosphere because of unlimited public beach access on the sands. That behavior was regulated by the privately owned property where such behavior was immediately squelched. And yet, by custom, no one was ever “Kicked off” of private beaches because owners don’t do that unless bad actors abuse the privilege.
Walton County has always had more than 50% PUBLIC beach. Still does. That hasn’t changed. There are now deliberately misleading fear tactics out there with scary words like “Quiet Title” and “Privatization”, neither of which have affected one single square inch of public beach, not one. Yet, the mob mentality, orchestrated by local carnival barkers eager for fame and notoriety, and dollars, have mislead the citizens and deliberately tried to divide the community in a shell game of Customary Use.
The fact is that the county outran the capabilities of local Commissioners to plan for growth 20 years ago, and we haven’t improved that talent to deal with it even yet. So the County, in failing to plan beach availability, tried to illegally claim private property as public, without following the laws requiring judicial oversight. The local Good Ol’ Boys overreached their authority and got caught by the adults in Tallahassee. So they then decides to sue 4,800 of Sowal citizens to take their property. That’s right, your tax money is being spent, and a lot of it, to SUE almost 5,000 of your neighbors, and steal what they agreed to purchase at a premium, and have a deed to prove it.
Don’t blame them please, they didn’t want or ask for this fight. They live here and care for these beaches just like you and me. Go meet them, they are truly the eclectic fabric of 30A. The signs they had to put up are just in defense of this new orchestrated public attack against them.
The bottom line is this: The minute you release the public to occupy all of Sowal beaches, you IMMEDIATELY get nasty Destin and PCB problems. How will you feel about that 30A sticker then? Nostalgic? Me too.

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BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#427
I live in the south but I am not for ignorance, lynchings, sister love, beer, NASCAR and pickup trucks. If I were to live in a community with a "private" beach it wouldn't mean I was for or against the issue. Dumb argument.
It just proves they are hypocritical, something I’ve argued for a very long time. They could have just as easily purchased a home with its own private beach near a public access and then donated that beach to the county. Instead they chose exclusive communities where even if customary prevailed, they would be minimally impacted.

Added...But now, they want us to do the donating.

Oh yeah, you’re about to alienate a lot of people regarding your comment about beer, NASCAR and pickup trucks in the same thought train as ignorance and sister love....just an observation.

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Beach Lover
#428
It just proves they are hypocritical, something I’ve argued for a very long time. They could have just as easily purchased a home with its own private beach near a public access and then donated that beach to the county. Instead they chose exclusive communities where even if customary prevailed, they would be minimally impacted.
If you donated yours you could be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Auburn Fan avatar
Beach Lover
#429
The residents of Watersound and Watercolor will no doubt offer they believe that access and use are 2 alternative different things....
BTW... The Seaside developer is 1 of the 650+ private property owners intervening against Walton’s public customary use of private property litigation too.


Well... maybe not all the residents of Watercolor and Watersound ...

The president of Florida Beaches for All, Dave Rauschkolb, might consider explaining this "access principle" to his organization's attorney, Daniel Uhlfelder. Rauschkolb is very privileged to enjoy the private accesses to private Watersound beach, truly an enclave for the rich.

And yet...
Just this morning Uhlfelder posted on social media an article highly critical of a man's arrest for trespassing on a private access to a public beach, claiming "...rich bastards buying beachfront mansions and blocking access..."

(Hmmmm.... Sounds kind of like Watersound to me....)

Chasing ambulances is no worse than chasing click-bait fame.

When are we going to see a viral harassment video stunt filmed at one of FBFA founders' private beaches of Watersound or Watercolor?

Oh. And before I forget,
Uhlfelder literally publicly tweeted these exact words this morning at 8:26am, "Eat the rich".
BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#430
Can someone on this thread please explain to me how CU advocates can get away with statements like Daniel Uhlfelder just made this morning? If a BFO said that, they would be villified. Also, how can pro CU folks get away with threatening statements that are all over social media since the video released this past weekend? It just seems there's a huge double standard. I can find lots of examples of pro CU people demeaning BFO's online, but can you find any BFO demeaning pro CU folks? It seems all of the name calling and double standard gives 30A a bad name. Weird since Uhlfelder lives and works in the area.
Dawn avatar
Beach Fanatic
#431
Can someone on this thread please explain to me how CU advocates can get away with statements like Daniel Uhlfelder just made this morning? If a BFO said that, they would be villified. Also, how can pro CU folks get away with threatening statements that are all over social media since the video released this past weekend? It just seems there's a huge double standard. I can find lots of examples of pro CU people demeaning BFO's online, but can you find any BFO demeaning pro CU folks? It seems all of the name calling and double standard gives 30A a bad name. Weird since Uhlfelder lives and works in the area.
I thgink it's because hogging beaches is morally wrong and anti-human, while saying stupid stuff is, saying stupid stuff.
BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#432
I thgink it's because hogging beaches is morally wrong and anti-human, while saying stupid stuff is, saying stupid stuff.
I get that you have an opinion about the beach, Dawn, and I respect your right to state it. And I hope that you would respect my right to my opinion. It's the vile name calling that I don't get. One thing we agree on, saying stupid stuff is saying stupid stuff. Unfortunately, I think the saying stupid stuff gives 30A a bad name- especially since all of this nonsense is going viral on social media.
jodiFL avatar
Beach Fanatic
#433
Can someone on this thread please explain to me how CU advocates can get away with statements like Daniel Uhlfelder just made this morning? If a BFO said that, they would be villified. Also, how can pro CU folks get away with threatening statements that are all over social media since the video released this past weekend? It just seems there's a huge double standard. I can find lots of examples of pro CU people demeaning BFO's online, but can you find any BFO demeaning pro CU folks? It seems all of the name calling and double standard gives 30A a bad name. Weird since Uhlfelder lives and works in the area.
You obviously havent read this thread in its entirety........
BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#434
You obviously havent read this thread in its entirety........
But I have, JodiFL. Please show me where any BFO on this thread has called any pro CU person names or made fun of them or threatened them, or wished them harm, or that their homes would be destroyed by hurricanes, etc.
FactorFiction avatar
Beach Fanatic
#435
I thgink it's because hogging beaches is morally wrong and anti-human, while saying stupid stuff is, saying stupid stuff.

I'm curious. Have you been to the beach? I keep seeing remarks from people about difficulties going to the beach or sitting on the beach and now "hogging" the beach. I am just not seeing this except in a few hot spots. Are people trying to find trouble?
jodiFL avatar
Beach Fanatic
#436
But I have, JodiFL. Please show me where any BFO on this thread has called any pro CU person names or made fun of them or threatened them, or wished them harm, or that their homes would be destroyed by hurricanes, etc.
Then you must have missed the "ignorant,emotional,mob,childish" parts of several posts here.
Beach Lover
#437
But I have, JodiFL. Please show me where any BFO on this thread has called any pro CU person names or made fun of them or threatened them, or wished them harm, or that their homes would be destroyed by hurricanes, etc.
The passive-aggressive, trolling, smarter-than-you attitude is as bad as anything said or done. The beachfront owners on this thread are here to stir up trouble and little else. It is behavior that hasn't been tolerated on this site in the past and I for one look forward to you getting banned or slinking away soon as you cry and moan about unfair treatment and censorship. It's a common pattern we've seen repeated over the years on this site, usually from right wingers. They show up, troll, get rebuked, and cry victim.

After reading for awhile it is obvious there is only about 3 beach hogs on here posting under multiple screen names as sock puppets. That is against forum rules.
@BlueMtnBeachVagrant crabby self has posted on here for years so he gets a pass I guess.
BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#438
The passive-aggressive, trolling, smarter-than-you attitude is as bad as anything said or done. The beachfront owners on this thread are here to stir up trouble and little else. It is behavior that hasn't been tolerated on this site in the past and I for one look forward to you getting banned or slinking away soon as you cry and moan about unfair treatment and censorship. It's a common pattern we've seen repeated over the years on this site, usually from right wingers. They show up, troll, get rebuked, and cry victim.

After reading for awhile it is obvious there is only about 3 beach hogs on here posting under multiple screen names as sock puppets. That is against forum rules.
@BlueMtnBeachVagrant crabby self has posted on here for years so he gets a pass I guess.
Wow. I can only speak for myself. I am new to this forum. Although I have lived in the area for years, I had no idea this site existed until a friend shared it with me. I have truly enjoyed all of the different types of information here. I was intrigued by this thread because it seems to be an important issue in our community. I have never posted anything here to cause trouble. I have asked a question based on my observations. I don't make my comments personal, and I try to be reasonable. What I don't understand is your vitriol against me. I do not have multiple screen names, and I am no one's sock puppet. I find it interesting that just because someone has a different opinion than you, you want to see me banned. Is that the way we treat each other in our 30A community? By the way EZ4144, what's your real name? How do we know that you're not here under multiple screen names just to stir up trouble? I was hoping for an adult conversation about an apparent double standard, but I guess I won't find that here. I will go back to my earlier statement saying stupid stuff hurts our 30A community's reputation.
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#439
I thgink it's because hogging beaches is morally wrong and anti-human, while saying stupid stuff is, saying stupid stuff.
Wow!! “morally wrong and anti-human”? Really? Please define “morality”. Please define anti-human. Your morality? American founding fathers morality? Western hemisphere morality? Eastern hemisphere morality? Ancient culture morality? The morality incorporated in our American Constitution and laws?

Morality - Wikipedia
Morality

That’s the 3rd time in this thread alone that morals have been brought up.

“... tactic of moral superiority.” of CU replies.
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“Legal deed or not, there is no moral justification.”
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“ ... is morally wrong and anti-human ...”
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy

The implication is that the poster is morally superior and that beachfront property owners who stand up for their legal property rights are immoral. That facts and laws do not matter. That leads to name calling and other emotional responses to facts and the law.

Credibility of the moral position suffers when the only response is name calling or making judgments of someone's immorality one feels or believes about another. Casting the first stone comes to mind.

Dawn who are you to judge and what morality are you judging others by? The morality incorporated in our American Constitution and laws?

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FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#440
The passive-aggressive, trolling, smarter-than-you attitude is as bad as anything said or done. The beachfront owners on this thread are here to stir up trouble and little else. It is behavior that hasn't been tolerated on this site in the past and I for one look forward to you getting banned or slinking away soon as you cry and moan about unfair treatment and censorship. It's a common pattern we've seen repeated over the years on this site, usually from right wingers. They show up, troll, get rebuked, and cry victim.

After reading for awhile it is obvious there is only about 3 beach hogs on here posting under multiple screen names as sock puppets. That is against forum rules.
@BlueMtnBeachVagrant crabby self has posted on here for years so he gets a pass I guess.
More baseless conspiracy theory conjecture. Why do you believe or what legal basis do you have for public customary use of private property except; just because, I believe in customary use, I saw it on an internet slide?

If shining the light of facts on the illusion of opinions as facts is string up trouble there is a lot more stiring to do.

If you donated yours you could be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Why don't you buy beachfront property and donate it? There are many properties for sale. What a hero you'd be.

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BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#441
If you donated yours you could be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
I’m not that generous and neither are they (by example).

Plus I believe in the U.S. Constitution and the quiet enjoyment of private property that it guarantees, not Old English Law (customary use with its loosey goosey and arbitrary benchmarks, that several states do not observe ...must be a reason). So why should I give up my property for a “problem” that “you’ve” created?

Do you want to talk money?
BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#442
Then you must have missed the "ignorant,emotional,mob,childish" parts of several posts here.
Don’t forget the names I’ve been affectionately called on SoWal. I don’t complain too much because it’s the new norm here and social media in general. But there definitely seems to be a double standard. I can say with CERTAINTY, that more personal name calling comes from the CU folks than from the BFO folks.

I’m proud to be an “ahole”. :moon:

But I really was deeply and personally offended by Daniel Uhlfelder for referring to BFOs acting like Nazis when he said his Jewish grandparents immigrated to the U.S. from Europe “because of oppression like this.” Yes I know I continually repeat this. The sound of crickets can be such a motivator.
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#443
As I read the last few posts
You obviously havent read this thread in its entirety........
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Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy

I wondered how many posts disparaged property right advocates in this thread? I found all opinions without explaining why the poster felt that way; no respectful civil discourse of why.
Posts did not contribute to explaining why an outspoken majority support public use of private property - other than just because - ignoring the ancient English legal doctrine many criteria whose Constitutionally will be determined soon.
Or explain why or why not you agree with the thread - will the public discourse of private property rights and public customary use of private property damage South Walton brand and community? From property owners perspective; if so how do you prevent that given the Commissioners litigation against 4,600 property owners and social media misinformation not based on facts or the law? Seemed like more an emotional knee jerk response to a post someone disagreed with instead of a thoughtful researched response.
Here's the posts I found directed at property rights advocates on this thread alone. How would you "feel" if these were directed at you and how would/should you respond?

despicable distortion
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badgering
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Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
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condecending and derogitory
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bullies
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Bullies and stalkers
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Your mother must be so proud!
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reading this BS
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you are a stable genius
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Classic gaslighting
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taunts and manipulation
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It's propaganda. It's gaslighting.
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Repeated disrespectful posting of Senator John McCain's grave site.
Violating SoWal Terms of Use 3.2 (a) Be courteous. ... will not post repetitive messages, meaningless messages or "spam."
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Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
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Exactly what a NAZI would say.
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Quiet title has been used ... in a nefarious way
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Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
demean
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BULLSHIT
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ridiculous ... ridiculous and silly.
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so full of it. bombardment of total and complete BS
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
bash our community, throw out your weak conspiracies, and crap on this forum.
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y’all can just keep pounding sand
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greed and greedy
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Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
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accusations and twisting of facts. It's ridiculous.
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stalk ... conspiracy website.
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trolls
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distorted lie ... narcissism, anger management problems, and delusions of grandeur ... angry buffoon
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sad babies. Wah! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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desperate
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ridiculous and insulting
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old rich people ... Scrooge. beach booters
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get a life ... non-stop propaganda ... ludicrous
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propaganda ... propaganda ... propaganda ...
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
lie to people
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shameful title ... dishonest ... dishonest and disrespectful ... propaganda
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
morally right ... arrogance ... bullshit ... insulting ... propaganda
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
gaslighting ... insulting ... arrogant, narcissistic property owners have lied
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Are you a joke? proves you are an ahole.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
arrogant, narcissistic property owners
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
arrogant, self-righteous, and egocentric.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Dumb argument.
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morally wrong and anti-human
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
passive-aggressive, trolling, smarter-than-you attitude ... stir up trouble ... look forward to you getting banned ... right wingers ... troll ... beach hogs
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy

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BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#444
As I read the last few posts
You obviously havent read this thread in its entirety........
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy

I wondered how many posts disparaged property right advocates in this thread? I found all opinions without explaining why the poster felt that way; and did not contribute to explaining why an outspoken majority support public use of private property - other than just because - ignoring the ancient English legal doctrine many criteria.
Or explain why or why not you agree with the thread - will the public discourse of private property rights and public customary use of private property damage South Walton brand and community? From property owners perspective; if so how do you prevent that given the Commissioners litigation against 4,600 property owners and social media misinformation not based on facts or the law?
Here's the posts I found directed at property rights advocates on this thread alone. How would you "feel" if these were directed at you and how would/should you respond?

despicable distortion
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
badgering
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
condecending and derogitory
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
bullies
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Bullies and stalkers
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Your mother must be so proud!
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
reading this BS
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
you are a stable genius
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Classic gaslighting
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
taunts and manipulation
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
It's propaganda. It's gaslighting.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Repeated disrespectful posting of Senator John McCain's grave site.
Violating SoWal Terms of Use 3.2 (a) Be courteous. ... will not post repetitive messages, meaningless messages or "spam."
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Exactly what a NAZI would say.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Quiet title has been used ... in a nefarious way
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
demean
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
BULLSHIT
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
ridiculous ... ridiculous and silly.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
so full of it. bombardment of total and complete BS
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
bash our community, throw out your weak conspiracies, and crap on this forum.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
y’all can just keep pounding sand
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
greed and greedy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
accusations and twisting of facts. It's ridiculous.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
stalk ... conspiracy website.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
trolls
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
distorted lie ... narcissism, anger management problems, and delusions of grandeur ... angry buffoon
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
sad babies. Wah! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
desperate
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
ridiculous and insulting
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
old rich people ... Scrooge. beach booters
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
get a life ... non-stop propaganda ... ludicrous
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
propaganda ... propaganda ... propaganda ...
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
lie to people
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
shameful title ... dishonest ... dishonest and disrespectful ... propaganda
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
morally right ... arrogance ... bullshit ... insulting ... propaganda
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
gaslighting ... insulting ... arrogant, narcissistic property owners have lied
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Are you a joke? proves you are an ahole.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
arrogant, narcissistic property owners
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
arrogant, self-righteous, and egocentric.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
Dumb argument.
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
morally wrong and anti-human
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
passive-aggressive, trolling, smarter-than-you attitude ... stir up trouble ... look forward to you getting banned ... right wingers ... troll ... beach hogs
Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy
That's quite a list. I am beginning to see that we have lost the "art of discourse". Facts and references aren't required to support opinions, and personal attacks seem to be the only manner some people can attempt to discuss anything these days. While I am passionate about issues, I will not attack someone just because they disagree. I am surprised and saddened at the "double standard" that exists- especially on social media, and apparently on this thread. So far no one has tried to explain "why this double standard exists." I am hoping we can change the tenor of the discourse about this issue and quit giving our community a bad reputation.
Beach Lover
#445
WHEN SARAH HUKABEE MOVES IN AND HER AND HER DAD GET GOING ALL YOU CUSTOMERRY ABUSERS WILL BE PUT IN JAILL WHERE YOU BELONG WITH ALL THE DIRTY MEXICANS IN 30A!!!! IF WE DONT ELECT TRUMP AGAIN WERE SCREWED THOUGH!!!!
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#446
WHEN SARAH HUKABEE MOVES IN AND HER AND HER DAD GET GOING ALL YOU CUSTOMERRY ABUSERS WILL BE PUT IN JAILL WHERE YOU BELONG WITH ALL THE DIRTY MEXICANS IN 30A!!!! IF WE DONT ELECT TRUMP AGAIN WERE SCREWED THOUGH!!!!
Pam this is not a thread on political figures or celebrities, please post elsewhere. Trump's America thread? It's demeaning and unnecessary but you are entitled to your opinion like everyone.
Auburn Fan avatar
Beach Lover
#447
Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or a group on the basis of protected attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

Pam's comment is intolerable.

The fact that the moderator not only doesn't delete it but, but actually celebrates it, is quite telling. And disturbing.

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Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#4481
Don’t forget the names I’ve been affectionately called on SoWal. I don’t complain too much because it’s the new norm here and social media in general. But there definitely seems to be a double standard. I can say with CERTAINTY, that more personal name calling comes from the CU folks than from the BFO folks.

I’m proud to be an “ahole”. :moon:

But I really was deeply and personally offended by Daniel Uhlfelder for referring to BFOs acting like Nazis when he said his Jewish grandparents immigrated to the U.S. from Europe “because of oppression like this.” Yes I know I continually repeat this. The sound of crickets can be such a motivator.

Instead of whining and being constantly offended when people in our community don't agree with your private beach stance why don't you go out and enjoy our beautiful piece of earth we all love.

Maybe treat yourself to some emotional beer support. Cheers.

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Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#449
Where are you as you post? Not on the beach I'd guess. At least we can view the beach from our air conditioned private beachfront property. Will add the previous post to the list.
What did post add to the thread discourse?
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I am watching the wild and beautiful bayou filled with fish, gators, dolphins, herons... in the woods with peace and beauty all around. Summer isn't a time for the beach for long time locals who know when to go unless it's sunrise or sunset. Enjoy your ropes and chains and signs. Be sure to patrol your sand and call the Sheriff to children and families who have driven from all over the country to enjoy the beach for a few days for a break from work and busy lives. You should be very busy in June and July. Enjoy every minute of it.

There is a reason I don't live on the beach. Besides not having millions of dollars, I just don't prefer living in the middle of crowds of tourists. That much I know about myself. Have always known. Though there are a few remote beach spots I would enjoy living, they are not here in South Walton. This baby beach town is popular with much growth coming. The bay and state forest are a sanctuary where many locals have lived for many years. And only a few minutes away from the beach towns and beaches.

I'm so thankful that I don't have to see the signs and watch the behavior of these new BFO people... Where did they come from? They are not the face of the South Walton I know and love. If I had to see this with my own eyes every day, I would have to move bayside to the woods. Best place ever.

I enjoy my occasional staycations on Inlet Beach. I have never seen any BFO with signs or ropes or anything like that nearby during my getaway to the beach. Such a sight would truly be tragic. Many others are being subjected to walls on the beach every day and that is unfortunate.

This thread is a scam and not deserving of serious response by those who respect and care about our community.

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BeachSandpiper avatar
Beach Comber
#450
WHEN SARAH HUKABEE MOVES IN AND HER AND HER DAD GET GOING ALL YOU CUSTOMERRY ABUSERS WILL BE PUT IN JAILL WHERE YOU BELONG WITH ALL THE DIRTY MEXICANS IN 30A!!!! IF WE DONT ELECT TRUMP AGAIN WERE SCREWED THOUGH!!!!
Wow. You prove my point. And it's kind of weird that a moderator from this page loves what you say. As a newbie, I guess I had the wrong idea about this forum and particularly this thread. Talk about giving our community a bad name..."dirty mexicans"???? Really?
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#451
Wow. You prove my point. And it's kind of weird that a moderator from this page loves what you say. As a newbie, I guess I had the wrong idea about this forum and particularly this thread. Talk about giving our community a bad name..."dirty mexicans"???? Really?
Of course I don't love the literal meaning of these words.. They are harmful and ignorant yet they are too real in today's America. What I do appreciate is how her satirical post puts the entire discussion into the category it belongs. IN THE TRASH

It's a dishonest discussion from the first post.

Her post is no better or worse than the first post made creating this alternative reality/intentionallydivisive thread. Further, her post is quite representative of the kind of thinking that these few private beach forum members share. Don't kid yourself. Building walls on our beaches is exactly what they stand for. Keeping the unclean masses off their private beaches.

The few private beach supporters here are also using disingenuous techniques for communicating here and elsewhere. Lies gaslighting and projecting their own behavior and actions onto the members of our community who are working to help protect customary use for everyone.

If you care about protecting our beaches you would see through these posts by uninformed fragile egos and understand what they stand for. It isn't anything good. It is greed and corruption created by and supported by our own Florida government. I am sorry to see it so plainly here in our own town. But I also believe it is very few who stand with them. And that is hope. Please support Florida Beaches for All.

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