Eleven Fla Counties forbid teaching of Evolution

[NoHall]

Evolution conflicts with the Christian indoctrination of world creation as written in the Bible.

No. It doesn't. Only the parts that remain unproven and sketchy. As a whole, it doesn't conflict at all.

I learned about evolution in Catholic high school. Religion and science can co-exist.

(See?)

It's the same folks who like to ban or burn school books not to their liking. It's why private Christian schools are one of the greatest businesses to be in currently. Christians view the scientific method with a jaundiced eye only when it tends to disprove their doctrine. It's childlike behavior born of a culture that questions everyone but themselves.

I love how people can sit and bash ALL Christians and talk about how intolerant and ignorant ALL Christians are in the name of ...what? ...tolerance? Do you realize that you sound just like the people you're bashing?

Bob, you know I love you, but you need to remove the plank from your eye before you can whack some poor ignorant Christian upside the head with it.

 

[Smiling JOe]

what in the world is happening in this state? and in this country?

I'll tell you what is happening. The Gov't is running the schools.

 

[Teresa]

No. It doesn't. Only the parts that remain unproven and sketchy. As a whole, it doesn't conflict at all.

explain how adam and eve and earth created in 7 days does not conflict with evolution?

my own thoughts are that the bible tells stories written by men to help us understand God in a certain way. I do not take most of these stories literally.


I love how people can sit and bash ALL Christians and talk about how intolerant and ignorant ALL Christians are in the name of ...what? ...tolerance? Do you realize that you sound just like the people you're bashing?

Bob, you know I love you, but you need to remove the plank from your eye before you can whack some poor ignorant Christian upside the head with it.

I don't believe Bob was referring to all christians. I believe he is referring to certain groups who have a way of giving all christians a bad name. its nothing new. they feed the flock with fear and point fingers at all beyond their little world. like the groups against the highschool play here at South WAlton County - scary how much they ban together (various protestant churches) and make a really big statement. they do have an incredible amount of influence in our communities.

 

[InletBchDweller]

Let's keep dumbing down America.

it is well on the way. Dumb them down so that they depend on the gov't even more and then use the taxes that are taken from me so they can pay for them to make more babies to depend on the gov't and so on and so forth......it is a sad sad cycle....

I'll tell you what is happening. The Gov't is running the schools.

IMO I think it is the unions that are running the schools...

 

[Teresa]

I'll tell you what is happening. The Gov't is running the schools.

very true from national level (no child left behind) to state dept of education to elected school board. where are the professional educators and why aren't they in charge?

I've often questioned having to elect leaders to do the professional work of education and law (sheriff). it brings a layer of politics into an area that needs less politics and more experitise in that field.

IBD - I don't know much about the teacher unions. but I would hate to see what teacher salaries would look like without them.

 

[hnooe]

it is well on the way. Dumb them down so that they depend on the gov't even more and then use the taxes that are taken from me so they can pay for them to make more babies to depend on the gov't and so on and so forth......it is a sad sad cycle....


IMO I think it is the unions that are running the schools...

Agreed. Yes. How do you break that cycle and elevate education in this country, so we can compete, stay healthier, and most of all, stay prosperous?

 

[InletBchDweller]

IBD - I don't know much about the teacher unions. but I would hate to see what teacher salaries would look like without them.[/quote

Yes, that is probably true but I have a big beef with them all around and that is not the topic at hand. I just personally think that unions have more cons than pros. another thread topic, another day....

 

[Smiling JOe]

very true from national level (no child left behind) to state dept of education to elected school board. where are the professional educators and why aren't they in charge?

I've often questioned having to elect leaders to do the professional work of education and law (sheriff). it brings a layer of politics into an area that needs less politics and more experitise in that field.

IBD - I don't know much about the teacher unions. but I would hate to see what teacher salaries would look like without them.

Dr Eric Smith, Commissioner of Education for State of FL, started off as a math and science teach in Orlando, so maybe that is good (possibly less politically motivated and more focused on schooling). His job sounds overwhelming.

I don't know jack about teacher unions, but I hear many people talk about how they (not the teachers, but the union) are screwing up our educational system.

 

[Teresa]

Dr Eric Smith, Commissioner of Education for State of FL, started off as a math and science teach in Orlando, so maybe that is good (possibly less politically motivated and more focused on schooling). His job sounds overwhelming.

I don't know jack about teacher unions, but I hear many people talk about how they (not the teachers, but the union) are screwing up our educational system.

it seems to me that these positions become highly political and removed from the real world of daily education of children. I don't know though.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Dr Smith actually sounds concerned about the system. He is speaking on ch 56, FL PBS, right now.