I haven't stepped foot on the property because I have never had a need to. Heck, I haven't been in most broker's offices, even the ones with which I do business. The hood of my car is my office in the nice weather and the Air-conditioned interior is my office in the hot summer months. (not officially, but that is where I sign many papers.) I am not buddy, buddy with the peeps at H20. However, it doesn't take long, if you are listening around here, to find out who is honest and who you should watch out for. The only people I have ever heard speak negatively of the collective group of H20 Properties are a small handfull of the people on this board who also are against the the private access. I think you are angry (maybe rightfully so) and are just venting your frustration, unfortunately, at the cost of someone with whom you have probably never spoken -- H20 Properties.
As for the what you consider to be lies, I guess we just disagree. With developments, it matters not what you have when you are selling the concept. What matters is what you have at completion, and how that relates to what was presented to you to be the final product. Remember, there is no sale if the buyer backs out because of breach of contract by the seller. I really don't see this as being any different from a developer selling a condo building pre-construction. The promise is made for a unit with particular size and finishes, and the building with particular ammenities. At the time the property is presented to potential buyers, they understand that the building is not complete. Often times, the ground is not even broken. Again, these are reservations for contracts given at that time. If the unit is not built because of lack of sales (for example), the buyer is refunded his money without penalty, and is not bound to the contract. The seller is not a lier. This issue about the lying in this case is no different. Again, I know some of you strongly disagree with this, but that is my opinion. I have listened to your accusation of lying, but you will need to provide other evidence to convince me. I have one better for you. To test your theory on the sales agents lying, report the particular individuals to the Board of Realtors along with the evidence. It is simple to do and easily accessible via myflorida.com
I doubt you will find their opinion to be different from mine based solely on the evidence which you present.
SJ-Are you saying that Got2Sell(AKA H20)and Beethoven do not comunicate? Again the facts are out there. ie-Bizjournals. Check Memphis area bizjournals maybe but who am I to report the facts. I think you will find that Got2Sell and Beethoven(OK OK Mosac formerly know as New Orchard Group. Maybe a tax benny for name change)
As for evidence maybe I did shred all of my info from the LyingFish Trailer park. HMMMMM I think I got it sometime in 05 and I was on-site and yeap I think they did have some gold shovels for ground breaking. Lots of wine and spirits. Saw a few foreign cars and trucks of course. I think that day they had just pushed all dirt away from the Trailer park so you could see it. I think I have been on-site now that I have had time to reflect SJ..
SJ-Sounds like you are a realtor and would have a tip for all folks buying from the Hot2Sell group who are also investors in Beethoven. The percentages are small but the $$$ are large. How could they not know?
SJ-If facts are facts than I should not have to worry about reporting Hot2Sell because someone and most everyone will once they read your post.
Buster I hope I did not confuse you
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